Podcast Episode 187: Growing Up with Same-Sex Parents and ‘Poster Child Syndrome’

Thanks so much for coming by to check out Episode 187 of The New Family Podcast where we explore the concept of ‘poster-child syndrome’ in the lives of some kids who grew up with same-sex parents

In this episode, we welcome back guests Sadie Epstein-Fine and Makeda Zook. We first heard a little from these two a year ago in a Pride-month episode called Growing Up with Same-Sex Parents, a special collaboration with TVO and the documentary Gayby Baby.

But there is so much more I want to share with you from those conversations. And now these two friends have co-edited a book called Spawning Generations: Rants and Reflections on Growing up with LGBTQ+ Parents. We get into the complicated phenomenon of the “Poster Child Syndrome” experienced by some of the kids who grew up with the first generation of out and proud same-sex parents. And we talk about why it’s so important to centre the stories of so-called Queerspawn, the children of same-sex parents whose perspectives we haven’t heard enough.

Here are some resources related to this episode.

Growing up with same-sex parents Spawning Generations book jacket cover

Spawning Generations: Rants and Reflections on Growing Up with LGBTQ+ Parents

Amazon Link

Book launch event for Spawning Generations June 18

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Growing up with Same-Sex Parents and 'Poster-Child Syndrome' Sadie Epstein-Fine and her two moms

What the authors say they hope people will get out of reading the book.

Sadie: “What I really would love is for people to take away that queerspawn have existing for much longer than maybe we think… I think there’s kind of a narrative that queerspawn were birthed in the 1990s, when as queer-positivity started to trend. The stories we have in our book don’t stretch as far back as queerspawn exist, but we’re disrupting that idea that we were birthed 30 years ago. I’m excited for people to hear from the range of our community in ways that I don’t think people often get to because my generation is often the oldest generation that gets to speak about their experiences — and I’m in my mid-20s.”

Makeda: “Not everyone in our communities has had… rainbows and sunshine all the time. We’re trying to create that space to say ‘that’s okay,’ because we’re as imperfect as everyone else. We’re just not as able to show that as other people and other families.”

Sadie: “Something that still inspires me about this book is how deep our contributors were willing to go. I’ve never heard as imperfect queerspawn families as I’ve read in our book. Even though I’ve talked to so many queerspawn with a diversity of experience, there’s always a leaning toward the positive, toward the ‘shame-to-triumph,’ toward the ‘I turned out okay.’ And these stories? Some do not say ‘I turned out okay.’ And I was blown away by that willingness to share that story, and despite our continued fight to have queer parents legitimized in society. As much as I’m blown away, I want others to be blown away by narratives that perhaps they may have never heard.”

What Makeda says about how communities of people raised by same-sex parents are evolving:

“I think that queerspawn communities are just growing. I think that also, the definition of what it means to be queerspawn just keeps expanding and that maybe, 10 years from now, queerspawn might decide that name, that identity, doesn’t exactly make sense anymore and that would be okay. It’s going to be really interesting because there is this ‘gayby’ boom and I think that there’s just going to be more of us and with even more diversity in terms of who their parents are and what family means. We’ve seen a growth not just of same-sex parents but of trans and non-binary parents, and I think that’s going to be really exciting to see that evolution.”

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Brandie is a long-time parenting editor, writer and spokesperson. Most recently editor-in-chief of Canadian Family magazine, Brandie has also been the parenting and relationships editor for the Toronto Star, founding editor of two Toronto Star websites, and an editor for Today's Parent. Brandie is a single mother of two in Toronto and a frequent television and radio guest on parenting topics. A former digital director at House & Home Media, she also consults on digital audience engagement. Contact her here. View all posts by


'Podcast Episode 187: Growing Up with Same-Sex Parents and ‘Poster Child Syndrome’' have 2 comments

  1. June 7, 2018 @ 4:20 pm D

    I feel the term “Queerspawn” may not be reflective of how some children of LGBTQ families would be comfortable as identifying themselves. The term “Spawn” by definition is “the product or offspring of a person or a place (used to express distaste or disgust”). While the authors may have reached a level of comfort and confidence to embrace the term “Queerspawn”, for those who are new to the community, it can be jarring, especially to children who may be hurt being called “Spawn”. I really enjoy your show otherwise and it’s great how many families you are helping with your content.

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    • Brandie Weikle

      June 10, 2018 @ 5:49 pm Brandie Weikle

      Thank you. That’s a totally valid point and it’s true that not every child of queer or trans parents embraces the term. Hence, I only used it in direct quotes from my guests. Although we didn’t get into it much here, the term is a purposeful reclaiming of “spawn” to try to take what was a disparaging use and turn it around. For some that’s empowering; for others that’s just negative. I’ll try to address that language issue in a post soon. Again, thanks for your comment. I really appreciate the dialogue and thank you very much for listening!

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