Podcast Episode 209: Life in a Mixed-Orientation Marriage

Thanks so much for coming by to check out Episode 209 of The New Family Podcast, where we explore a couple’s journey in a mixed-orientation marriage.

For years my guest for this episode and his former wife lived in a mixed-orientation marriage. Matt Nightingale had shared with his wife, Luanne, that he was gay, but — for various reasons, including that he was a pastor at a fundamentalist church — they stayed together for 15 years.

During this time Matt undertook all kinds of efforts to turn himself straight — including conversion therapy. Matt has since done some writing about his experience, and he and Luanne have given a powerful TedEx talk on the journey they’ve taken together and it’s complicated emotional terrain.

Here are some resources related to this episode:

Matt’s website

Connect with Matt on Facebook

Follow Matt on Twitter

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Matt’s Advice for Other People Facing Coming Out to a Spouse

“It’s hard. I’ve honestly been so grateful for the Ted talk. It’s been seen over 13,000 times now and I’ve just been by the number of people who find me because of it. Just yesterday I got a Facebook message from a stranger saying, ‘I just watched your Ted talk and I just had to reach out and find you.’ Because there are so many of us in these kinds of marriages. So many people, for whatever reason, find themselves there. And they need to know that they’re not alone.

“But I always tell them, ‘I am not some guru. I cannot give you all this advice, but what I can do is share my experience truthfully, and I can be a companion to you as you through this, whatever you decide. And I can help you connect with other who are like us. Because there’s a huge Facebook group that I’m a part of where people can really share their experience and their hope and strength. I would say that as I was going through this very long process, I had good friends in my life who had been through the same thing giving me this advice: Just be kind, be truthful, and be as generous as you can. I think those are the three words that I tried to live by as I was making choices that were really going to impact people in a painful way. Be kind, be as generous as I could be and be truthful.”

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Brandie Weikle

About Brandie Weikle

Brandie is a long-time parenting editor, writer and spokesperson. Most recently editor-in-chief of Canadian Family magazine, Brandie has also been the parenting and relationships editor for the Toronto Star, founding editor of two Toronto Star websites, and an editor for Today's Parent. Brandie is a single mother of two in Toronto and a frequent television and radio guest on parenting topics. A former digital director at House & Home Media, she also consults on digital audience engagement. Contact her here. View all posts by


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